[updated] (with chart) More superdelegates joining team Obama this week

[Updated] Superdelegates keep joining Team Obama. Granted this is not the 50 superdelegates we've all heard discussed around here. However, it shows that the trend, despite tuesday night's results, are still toward Obama--at least in terms of superdelegates, which, according to many people around here, is what matters.

Supers who have joined this week:

Ian Carleton (VT) 3-4-08
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Carol Fowler (SC) 3-4-08
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Roy LaVerne Brooks(TX) 3-4-08
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Mary Long (GA) 3-4-08
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Rhine McLin (OH) 3-5-08
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Jane Kidd (GA) 3-5-08
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Darlena Williams-Burnett (IL) 3-5-08
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Connie Thurman(IN) 3-6-08
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Nick Rahall (WV) 3-6-08
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Teresa Benitez-Thompson(NV) 3-6-08
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Added dates and states.

Superdelegates Chart

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the trickle of a loser (none / 0)

They went bye bye. Even Ted Kennedy said so.


by moi moi on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:06:42 PM EST

Re: the trickle of a loser (none / 0)

What did Ted Kennedy say? Quote or link?


by marcotom on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:52:16 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team (2.00 / 1)

Which again leaves me wondering...why do Clinton supporters continue to misplace their hope in the belief that SuperDelegates are somehow going to magically swoop down and save them from the stark delegate deficit they are facing?

They have been steadily moving towards Obama.


by goodnbad on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:10:45 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team (none / 0)

My only guess is . . . "hope"

They hope the supers will come around. But know what? there's a big chance that the supers won't.


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:13:09 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team (none / 0)

Oh, I see.  He's only getting black SuperDelegates, is that it?

Face the facts, Clinton's lead in SDs has been decimated over the past few weeks.  What makes you think that she can suddendly pull them in at the 70-30 or 80-20 clip that will be necessary for her to close the delegate deficit?


by goodnbad on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:53:22 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team (none / 0)

I call BS on that. He got supers from Vermont and Maine this week.


by marcotom on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:53:47 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

If I was a Hillary supporter, I'd be most worried about loosing supers to Obama especially when there is no chance that Hillary is going to top Obama's pledged delegates AND especially days after she's had the her best news in a long time.


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:11:47 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

This image is actually a little old - her lead is barely 40 now.

You can see that Obama is CLEARLY catching up to Clinton on S-D endorsements.  And this doesn't count the Unassigned Delegates; that's anywhere from a 14 to 20 Super-D advantage.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:14:52 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining (none / 0)

An interesting article about California SDs.

The best part:

Barbara Boxer, one of the state's best-known superdelegates, has confused some by her stance. Boxer does not plan to endorse Clinton or Obama as long as both are running. But even though she has not thrown her support to either candidate, she does plan to vote for Clinton at the convention because Clinton won the California primary. Saying "the will of the voters is paramount," she hopes the superdelegates do not decide the nominee at the convention.

"Part of me says, 'Let's make the most of this.' We're seeing a record number of people turning out in state after state. There is tremendous excitement in states that we will need this fall. But this is dangerous territory - you try to control what your supporters say, but you can't always do that."

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8472501?nc lick_check=1


by americanincanada on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:14:55 PM EST

Clinton's reliance on super delegates will (none / 0)

be her downfall.


by bigdcdem on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:18:08 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

Well, he's certainly given way more money to the Supers - any surprise?


by cmugirl90 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:18:14 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

Obama's PAC donated money to colleagues so they could win re-election.

What's wrong with a Democrat with a phenomenal fund raising apparatus that outstrips anything that came before him helping out his fellow Democrats in elections?


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:20:55 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

The vast majority of his donations were from 2006 - WAY before he decided to run for prez.

Nice try, thanks for playing.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:23:38 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

Yeah - you don't think he was thinking of running for Prez then?  Right....


by cmugirl90 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:34:08 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

It's common practice for Congressmen and Senators to donate money to the election campaigns of those who need it.  The attempt to make it seem nefarious in any way is silly in the extreme.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:38:02 PM EST
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Prediction (none / 0)

Obama will lead in super Delegates by this time next week.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:19:24 PM EST

Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Nancy Pelosi put the word out to SD's - no more endorsing and stay out of the race.

I would be surprised if you saw many more announce when it's this close. They'll wait until after PA.


by cmugirl90 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:34:59 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Funny, somewhere between 5 and 6 of them did so after she announced that.  Guess they didn't get the memo.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:38:48 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

I don't understand why Nancy Pelosi gets to tell people when to vote. By the way, she's the only superdelegate to join "Team Clinton" this week.


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:48:59 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

She didn't officially endorse her, did she? That would be unexpected, I see her more in the Obama corner.


by marcotom on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:56:41 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Right she has not endorsed . . . yet.


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:29:10 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

You sure about Pelosi?  I know Barbara Boxer said this week that she would vote Clinton, but not Pelosi.  DemConWatch has her listed as uncommitted.


by goodnbad on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:58:43 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Right. I believe it was Boxer. Sorry for confusion


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:28:25 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Wow, five have announced for Obama just today.

Nancy Pelosi cannot stop SDs from announcing no matter what she says.

I am hopeful that there will eb a new Super Delegate added to the ranks of super delegates on Saturday. His name is Bill Foster and he's going to win Denny Hastert's old seat.

He'd have to endorse Obama since Obama endorsed him and cut an ad that appears to have made a difference. SurveyUSA currently has him up on Oberweis with more than 50% and a 7 point lead.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:22:54 PM EST
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Re: Prediction (none / 0)

Why would they choose after PA when NC is just two weeks after that? I mean NC is the final test, the state that will decide the nomiantion (basically, if Hillary can't win NC then it proves that she can't win African American support and will get decimated in the general).


by Socraticsilence on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 04:13:45 PM EST
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Re: so Obama was only able to bully a handful? (none / 0)

It was never going to be fifty in one day. It was supposed to be over the next couple of weeks. But I do imagine that at least a good portion of them are now hedging again.


I read the body count out of the paper; now it's written all over my face.
by JDF on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:19:48 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama (none / 0)

It's called quantity over quality.
Most Obama endorsers cite his ability to attract new Dem voters - not his policy positions.

McCain will win in Georgia, but Jane Kidd the State Dem Chairman, endorses Obama to build the Dem base.
Quantity over quality.
 


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:22:41 PM EST

Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama (none / 0)

Are you saying some people's vote count more than others?


by poserM on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:26:36 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama (none / 0)

How deluded are you? Do you really need to attack on everything Obama? His policies are pretty much the same as Clintons, how could they endorse one of them  solely on issues?


by marcotom on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:59:40 PM EST
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Re: More superdelegates joining team Obama this we (none / 0)

The superdelegates realize that Hillary Clinton's negatives are very high and are getting higher as she goes negative.

By the way, why won't she release the tax returns from the end of Bill Clinton's presidency until 2006  Doesn't she need to be vetted now because the Republicans will do it in the general election?

It is absolutely pathetic that she would compare a call to release tax returns to Ken Starr's investigations. Look for lots of op-eds and editorials pounding her for her history of secrecy.  Given what we've suffered with Bush-Cheney, we don't need another president who isn't absolutely committed to transparency.


by mainelib on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:44:07 PM EST

Re: Most supers are smart enough to figure it out (none / 0)

It is also becoming clear from the math that HRC's only path to the nomination is to rely on seating MI and FL delegations "as is" or dragging out the voting process even further with re-votes in June.  

In addition, the level of negativity coming from Team Hillary has to be of concern to many.  She already threw the sink at him, what's next the toilet?

Hillary will unite and turn-out the Repub base.  Obama will increase turn-out among the Dem base (AAs and youth voters).  The math is pretty clear as to who would be better for down-ballot Dems.


by upper left on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:58:06 PM EST

Nick Joe is a hack. (none / 0)

WV is in play for Clinton, but not for Obama.  SUSA polls show Obama losing WV by 20 points against McCain, while the same poll shows Clinton winning WV.  And the only poll to date shows Clinton beating Obama 2-1.  So why on earth is Rahall announcing for Obama?  

Rahall acknowledged that his choice of Obama might not be popular with voters in his district, which includes Cabell County.

I really dislike Nick Joe.  What a hack.


by mgee on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 05:31:24 PM EST

Re: Nick Joe is a hack. (none / 0)

While I'm on the subject, we have the "Nick Joe Rahall Institute of Appalachian Transportation" (which is quite possibly the stupidest institute ever made), and the "Nick Joe Rahall Intermodal Transportation Facility" (which is a parking garage.  Srsly.  Ugh.)


by mgee on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 05:56:53 PM EST
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