Two superdelegates join team Obama

by poserM, Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 03:56:19 PM EST

Today, so far, two superdelegates have announced they are joining Team Obama. Granted this is not the 50 superdelegates we've all heard discussed around here. However, it shows that the trend, despite last night's results, are still toward Obama--at least in terms of superdelegates, which, according to many people around here, is what matters.

The two superdelegates are Dayton Mayor Rhine McLin (Obama won her county by huge margins) and Jane Kidd (Georgia Democratic Party chairwoman)

Here are links:

Mayor McLin Link Jane Kidd Link

As for coming primaries/caucauses. WY and MS should be interesting. Small states like WY have the potential to add more delegates for a candidate that big one like Texas.

For example,  Hillary received +5 in Rhode Island and +4 for Texas (primary only). Go figure.




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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Excellent news.


by NewOaklandDem on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 03:58:00 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

If Obama can't get the nomination with pledged delegates, and looks like the Fl and Mich will count somehow, they must after all, if all the voters matter, which you keep insisting that these red state caucuses matter so much more than the real wins in big states, heha, Obama cannot get the nomination by screaming about these delegates.  He can't get there from here anyway.  As for this contest, Obama has already lost you just don't realize it yet.  He doesn't have the experience to be president and no amount of net roots screaming or lamenting about these delegates really matter in the end.  He ain't gonna be President.


democrat voter
by democrat voter on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:02:09 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

They are going to contest both states , keep the delegates close.

She would probably win pennslyvania by at least 10 points.

Florida and Michigan would probably hold new primaries and she would probably win those by about 10 as well.

after winning texas , florida , ohio , michigan , california , new york ,

she would have an undeniably strong case


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:02:11 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (2.00 / 1)

More elected delegates?  Obama. By about 100.

More popular votes?  Obama. By about 600K.

Under what tortuous criteria does Clinton have a strong case?


by goodnbad on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:04:39 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

There is no basis for believing she would win either Florida or Ohio by 10 if Obama has a strong ground game there- which he likely would if they reschedule caucuses for those states (which are a lot more likely than primaries at this point.)

And living in PA I will tell you that it is going to be closer than 10 points here.


ENOUGH!
by JDF on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:06:19 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Even if she won both states by 10%, that would only net her 31 delegates. Obama has a 140-150 pledged delegate lead at the moment. If you run through the rest of the primary schedule, it looks like they'll split the rest 50-50, give or take a few. (That's assuming Obama wins WY, MS, NC, OR, MT and SD and Clinton wins PA, IN, WV and KY. I assume they'd split PR but it really doesn't make a difference.)

So at the end of the day, even with re-votes in MI and FL, Obama would have somewhere around a 110 pledged delegate lead. Clinton has a 42 superdelegate lead with 283 superdelegates not having endorsed. She would have to get 175 (or 62%) to be even with Obama.

Her problem is that she dug herself a hole that's hard to get out of.


by kjblair2 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 05:21:10 PM EST
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Re: who? (none / 0)

Dosen't matter who they are, it matters who they endorse.  Same goes for SD's that I've never heard of that endorse Clinton.


by NewOaklandDem on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:03:03 PM EST

Re: who? (none / 0)

I added some links.


by poserM on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:07:22 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

If Tom Brokaw is telling the truth, there should be 48 more Supers ready to go with Obama.


by mecarr on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:09:16 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Where are these 50 Superdelegates that his highness Sir Tom Brokaw said were in the bag for Sen. Obama?


by Safe at Home on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:31:32 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

I guess tomorrow must be the day for the 48 others.  I'll be checking this site for updates.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 05:21:11 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

It'll probably be next Wednesday. After WY and MS.


by poserM on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 05:28:58 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Pelosi issued a statement today tellng SDs to step back, that there is no need to step into this and try to influence anything yet.

I doubt you are going to see the aformentioned '50' supposed delegates do anything.


by americanincanada on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:10:24 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Is that because the take orders from Pelosi? Or because you think that they've decided on their own not to do anything?


by poserM on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:12:08 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Do you really think the super delegates won't endorse becuase of something Pelosi said? Come on, get real.


by mecarr on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:24:16 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

But nobody tells the supers how to vote or what to do.

They're supposed to be completely autonomous, aren't they?  At least that's what I've been hearing from HRC supporters for the past 2 months.


by goodnbad on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:28:49 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Whatever. Believe what Axelrod told Brokaw if you want. believe that SDs are going to jump to Obama even after he lost three straight, including Ohio by a large margin. Believe that this is over if you want.

No skin off my nose.


by americanincanada on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 04:42:59 PM EST

Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

I hope you don't take offense but i was just trying to help out the site. So little positive Obama news gets posted her I though I'd create a diary (my first one at that) to share some facts.

After all, she are simply facts. nothing more.
2 superdelegates joined obama and Hillary got more pledged delegates from RI than Texas primary.

Both facts.


by poserM on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 05:06:53 PM EST
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Re: Two superdelegates join team Obama (none / 0)

Clinton's lead is down to 40 among superdelegates, I'm sorry, I mean "automatic delegates".


by Skaje on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 06:18:12 PM EST

Woot! (none / 0)

Thats 1/2 of what Hillary gained last night. Thanks for the heads up. As Axlerod said, as much as they move the goalposts, it looks like they are running out of field.


by faithfull on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 06:39:38 PM EST


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